Thread:LadyAlys/@comment-24150802-20150425065023/@comment-24150802-20150814073829

Keep in mind that the wiki caters to a very wide range of users, from children to gamers with highly technical knowledge. Information that might seem redundant to some users will not be to others.

For example, we sometimes see questions in the Tavern and the Newbies guild about what the targets of skills are, even though the skill descriptions state it. For those users, it is helpful to have the target described in a simple, brief, dedicated table row.

We also sometimes see questions about how to maximise the effects of a skill, even though the description says "based on...". To someone who understands how the skills work, "based on" might make it clear that you maximise the effects by increasing those attributes. To players who are unfamiliar with gaming, or who are new and feel overwhelmed by all the information, it might not be as obvious, and they are helped by a clearer statement. In addition, for skills that are based on two attributes, the description does not explain that both have equal effects, whereas the "Maximize Effects" field does.

The "Notes" field is also not redundant. It sometimes explains the skill in a different way, which can help some players who are having trouble understanding the skills (e.g., if they might not know that "gains a buff to CON" means "Increases the CON"). It also sometimes gives additional information which is not in the description.

These details might seem unnecessary to an advanced player, but they aren't to a new player. The wiki needs to help both. Many of the wiki editors also help in the Tavern and Newbies guild by answering questions, so we get a good feel for what level of information needs to be provided.

I think players also benefit from having that information presented in a standard tabular format for all skills, rather than having it described in sentences and paragraphs.

I agree that the calculation and changes, and perhaps the examples and critical hits could be considered detailed information, and might be better on a dedicated page, but only if there was sufficient other information to make it worth having a dedicated page. There might be - I'm not necessarily saying that we shouldn't have dedicated pages for each skill. We do however need to keep at least some of the information on the class pages.