Talk:Pets

I have no idea how to add a table of contents or make tables sortable (I was thinking about making the big table of pets sortable by potion type or egg type) - so... if someone knows... :D -  Sonoris (talk) 21:24, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

Heres an example {| border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" class="wikitable sortable" id="sortable_table_id_0" style="font-size: 13px; width: auto; " Nosht82 (talk) 21:44, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

http://papayafish.wikia.com/wiki/Papaya_Fish_Wiki has an example close to the top of the page Nosht82 (talk) 21:46, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

I updated for the new hatching procedure. I think the spacing could use some tweaking still and maybe hatching-eggs.jpg should be replaced with a little bit bigger image that has some green-highlighted eggs. Bobbyroberts99 (talk) 17:00, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

Like the "Armor" and "Table of Available Armor" articles, I have merged the "Pets" and "Table of Hatchable Pets" articles. 86.139.168.139 14:42, November 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * ^ Sorry, forgot to sign in. It was me. LordGrowl (talk) 14:42, November 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * ^^ I plan to redo the table at some point as a full 9 x 10 table in a similar format to the Stables screen as opposed to leaving in it's current, scroll heavy format. I hate unnecessary scrolling and clicking. LordGrowl (talk) 14:50, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Suggested Changes
It's currently just in development stage at the moment Bobby. I'll work on the mounts page soon. Breadstrings (talk) 11:33, November 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) Replace inventory image to reflect mounts update. Is it live on production or just beta? Bobbyroberts99 (talk) 01:22, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

I've converted the table of hatchable pets to the 9x10 format (@LordGrowl, I hope you don't mind that I implemented your intended plan; I thought now was a good time since the page has just become a lot larger). Unfortunately, now we have to scroll left-right to see them all! EDIT: Removed left-right scroll by making images a bit smaller. Also removed the table borders to reduce clutter; I don't think they're needed for this kind of table.

I've put the beasts in alphabetical order but left the colours in the old cost order, because I loved that order and miss it, and anyway it was easier to just leave it. :) I of course have no objections if anyone else wants to change the order.

LadyAlys (talk) 20:38, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

Nice work LadyAlys. I do miss the prices indicators, though. Does anyone think we need the gem prices amongside the pets?Breadstrings (talk) 23:23, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! :)  I think we need to be cautious about putting too much information on one page. Putting the gem prices on the hatching potion page was a great idea, but I don't think they should be duplicated here as well. And showing images of the egg prices would be a bit redundant since they're all the same. :) LadyAlys (talk) 00:37, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

Ah, that's true. I just thought that image would be what the users would see in their own inventory and thus updated it. Breadstrings (talk) 00:40, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

Merged eggs and hatching potions into this wiki. Makes more sense when put together and did not have enough information to stand alone on their own pages. Breadstrings (talk) 02:02, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

Should we retitle this to Stable, as per LadyAlys's suggestion? Breadstrings (talk) 02:12, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

If it's going to have a single-word name, then "Pets" is probably best. But if we use "Pets in the Stable" as its name, it's the best of both worlds: when people are looking through the wiki's lists of pages for information about Pets or about the Stable, then they'd find this page regardless. LadyAlys (talk) 02:17, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

Originally, I think LadyKatFrog and I set the wiki to have a page for each part of the game so that if people searched for it, they'd find it. We could always redirect Stable to Pets by deleting Stable and having it redirect to Pets, or we could list pets and stable on the index and have both go to pets... Let me think about it overnight and do some research. I'm done for the day. Bobbyroberts99 (talk) 02:54, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

I like the idea of redirection Bobbyroberts99. The two topics are so closely interlinked that it would work. Breadstrings (talk) 02:57, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

I definitely agree that some reorganization would help, and after thinking about it overnight, want to throw out some ideas/questions. Mainly, I think it's important to clarify what question we're trying to answer from the players perspective. If they're in Options/Inventory/Inventory and need help, how do they know where to go? I'm working on adding more in-game links to the wiki, but right now, I think if you're on the Inventory tab in-game, you're likely to search Inventory on the wiki. Right now if I want to hatch an egg, I've got to dig around a bit. I think the in-game tabs are confusing (Inventory/Inventory so I've asked to have the top-tier Inventory tab renamed to Pets so that the game and the wiki will match. I agree that Pets is the top-level subject when we're talking about eggs and potions, inventory and stable.

The other idea I want to throw out there is that the wiki allows us to display one article in another by inserting this code ". If we use this, we can keep the short articles (which will be good for linking from the game for additional mouseover help) and also splice together longer articles like Pets from the shorter ones. Check out the source code on the this sample Pets article for an example.

Until we work this out and figure out a way to make the wiki clear, easy to understand and complete for the player seeking help, I want to hold off on deleting pages for the moment. I also think this exercise is a good opportunity for @Breadstrings and @Alys to learn the ropes so you can become wiki admins (if you continue to be interested in the project). If you can't tell, I'm a relative novice and could definitely use the help.

Anyway, what do you think? If I put myself in the shoes of a player seeking help, I'm still a little confused by what we have now. Bobbyroberts99 (talk) 19:31, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

@Bobbyroberts99, I prefer the TOC on the left because it makes the layout look neater than it is currently. At the moment the TOC is cutting through our headings, which makes the page look cramped without enough spacing.

I like the idea of pages with pages. I wasn't aware this feature was available, it would make things much easier in terms of links and searches. I'll see what I can do with the redesign to make it identical to the one we have currently to see if it's possible. Breadstrings (talk) 00:14, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

Moved toc to left. Added howto video for hatching a pet. Tyler's vids are long and often cover several subjects, so I'm playing making short, 1 subject vids. This is a rough draft. I think the hatching potions section should have one image with number of gems to buy in that image which would remove the need to also spell it out. Seems like overkill right now. Bobbyroberts99 (talk) 00:54, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

Edit: Nope, I was wrong. TOC to the right it goes. I'll have a look at the hatching potions section, Bobby. Breadstrings (talk) 00:57, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

I've updated the possible pet page redesign to reflect our current one. It looks pretty good, except some of the formatting is a bit off (such as some of the subtitles become titles etc, to match being on a separate page). Not sure if I'm just being nitpicky or if this is something no one really cares about. XD Opinions please! http://habitrpg.wikia.com/wiki/Possible_Pets_redesign Breadstrings (talk) 01:03, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

Brain is fried breadstrings. Will take a look tomorrow. Bobbyroberts99 (talk) 01:50, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

@jiggerD, oh that infobox is slick. Nice work! Bobbyroberts99 (talk) 19:55, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

@Bobbyroberts99 Thanks, glad you like it! I thoughht about doing a Game Character Infobox for the NPCs, would that be wanted? JiggerD (talk) 20:09, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

@jiggerD I think that would be a nice way to highlight the NPC's. Just go for what makes sense to you and if someone has a different idea or disagrees, they can discuss on talk pages. There's no one making the Final Decision. So far, I think we're doing a great job of collaborating--someone adds/edits an element then someone tweaks, and then another tweak and then another... It's fun. Oops forgot to sign. Bobbyroberts99 (talk) 23:00, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

The tweaking is the best part. ;) Don't forget to sign off, by the way. I think it's Bobby but could be LadyAlys or Wc8 for all I know. :P I like the idea of highlighting the NPCs, JiggerD. Did you find the profile links to the get to know the NPCs on the blog page? We could definitely incorporate that in. Breadstrings (talk) 22:55, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

Suggested Changes
Somone on the tavern was confused about the difference between mounts and pets. Should we put it here or in the mounts page? Breadstrings (talk) 11:06, December 12, 2013 (UTC)

As the game evolves it seems like the structure is changing so for me the question is, "What are Pets and Mounts?" What's the overall name? I don't think it's Pet's anymore. To answer your question, I think there should be a link on each page (Pets to Mounts and Mounts to Pets) but the whole thing is a little confusing at this point and will be further confused when Classes gets released (check out GH #1870 ). Bobbyroberts99 (talk) 19:01, December 12, 2013 (UTC)

Adjusting the Pets Table
I made the table center its various cells for easier use. Does this look any better? Sleepykit (talk) 07:04, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

i think so :) i was wondering, is there a way to make it so that some of the images don't stretch? the cactus and the panda are noticeably zoomed in compared to the others (or maybe the others are just shrunk?) Crystalphoenix8 (talk) 01:39, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

That might be due to the file size. I haven't replaced all the pics with the transparent ones yet because I haven't found time to yet, but I do know that panda, lion and cactus are all transparent. Perhaps that's the reason why they're zoomed? Breadstrings (talk) 01:41, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

hm... we could potentially re-upload all of the pets using the 81x99px images that the site uses. all future pets will also be in that size image so they would look uniform next to each other. but the problem would be all of the extra space around the pet, most notably above it. it would be about as roomy as the pet table on the site itself. Crystalphoenix8 (talk) 04:43, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

I wonder (and maybe a pixel contributor can answer this best) if we can use the images available in the code repository. Are those all the same size and transparent? Sleepykit (talk) 18:10, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

I can make consistently sized and transparent images for the table. I have uploaded all of the wolves tonight and will do the rest of the table images over the weekend. Renatonegrini (talk) 00:24, January 17, 2014 (UTC)

V2 pets
Hi, I'm still working on adding the transparent images to the table (I've been adding a row every now and then). Now that V2 pets are becoming available, I was wondering whether the table should be split into two? The current table is pretty big and will only get even larger as further V2 pet breeds become available. I think it would also help to differentiate the "free" breeds which will make up the beastmaster achievement (once it is fixed) and the gem-only breeds which will not.Renatonegrini (talk) 22:09, February 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * I agree with the idea of a second table for V2 pets (I inserted the gryphon in the regular table before I read this). I will insert a V2 table, possibly collapsible for now since it could be considered a spoiler. I also took the liberty to insert a sub-topic "V2 pets" on this talk page so the talk process is sped up. Luveluen (talk)