The Keep:Poisoned People (You Are Poisoned ! Challenge)

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Lexicon

Remedy : Any task that allows you to check a poison without actually doing the thing it requires you to do. Poison : Daily that is included in the challenge. Antidote : Custom reward that explicitly contains "antidote" in it's name. Paying for one allows you to check a poison. Treatment : Habit (-) that requires that you inflict yourself some damage to check a poison. Heal : Check one of the Poison dailies without doing the miscelanous task it requires, by using one of the antidotes, treatments or else. Pure Poison is the only poison you have to heal to check it at all.

When do the challenges end ?

They all end at the same moment, except those kept as archive, and that is at the end of any month that is a multiple of 3. That means March, June, September and December. Logically, they last 3 months. If it is late to end, don't hesitate to PM me to put a little pressure on. I might have technical difficulties, but in general, it cannot be anything too big.

What are SpTD ?

It stands for Special To-Do, I asked if the name should be changed from STD to SpTD and the answer was mostly no, but the problems told about by those who wanted it were quite big and the majority of "no", not so overwhelming. These are a set of to-do tasks the challenge asks you to choose in your existing list (or create if they fit the terms).

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I am participating in the poison challenge, but would like to change class. How do I go about doing that?

What about being healed by gaining a lvl ?

Saddly, there is no option to turn that off, as of now, I hope there will be in the future. For now, if you feel that you indulge into using that to heal yourself from the treatments you have just used or anything else that takes advantage of it, I would recommend making a habit of manually restore your health to its previous number after gaining a lvl.

Why do I get so much reward from poisons ?

In the current Habitica system, tasks that do lots of damages also give lots of rewards, and the only way around it is to use negative habits to inflict damages manually. I could add that, but it would break the intended work flow of the challenge, by adding too much manual input. Instead, if you think you get too much reward, you should use the Antidotes to get rid of your gold and some antidote to loose levels, to slow down you progression, while getting something out of it. I'm trying to balance the prices, but tell me if you think they are wrong. I note that some people actually like the exp and gold bonus it gives... so if my request on trello is ever implemented and tasks can hit hard and reward a little, I will put an archive version somewhere.

Why do I have to cast mana leak so many times ? Can't you make it a hard negative habit instead ?

This wouldn't solve the problem, the goal is to loose mana, for those who wish to play with that additionnal difficulty, and a trivial or hard habit makes you loose just as much mana per minus. The only way to loose "only" mana using only standard mecanics is to click a trivial habit a certain number of times. This feature is purely optionnal, though. If you want to use it any other way, feel free. For example you can use the Fix Character Values to remove a few mana at the end of the day, depending on the number of spells you casted, or each time you cast a spell.

When is it okay to restore streaks on poison dailies ?

Streaks should only be restored in case of bugs or mishandling. If you have been prevented from accessing Habitica at all, or the internet at all, you can also consider restoring your streaks.

"Hello! Since you're planning to end the current You are Poisoned challenge soon, I thought I might write a few words how it worked for me :) Generally, it did make Habitica tougher and more fun, but also the amount of Dailies increased by 50%, which was the reason I started to level up much quicker than before, making me feel like I don't deserve it. So I started using Fix Character Values option to change the experience value back to 0 several times before gaining each level (meaning I had to gather, say, 10000 exp to gain a level that normally requires 1100-1300 exp). The most annoying Dailies are the ones that force to check the tags (I don't make much use of those anyway, but checking them every day is a bit overkill :) ) and write in a chat (which became easy to do when I joined the STAG guild and started my own series of challenges, which happened about 2 months ago; before that it was a pain, like what am I supposed to write? I'm tired after the whole day and nothing comes to my mind....; anyway I can tell there's a great improvement :) ) Quests were no problem, as I do plenty of boss quests (want to get as many quest pets as possible). Therefore I found the Exorcism useless. Due dates are a pain too. I was fine for the first couple of weeks, and after that so many outdated ToDos accumulated that I never managed to drop below 5 again. And so I used Accupuncture every day... At my level, and with plenty of tasks, it is not difficult to use either potions or remedies, without mixing them. I do have plenty of mana most of the time, so healing is not a problem. Using only potions drains gold coins faster than I can earn them, so I mostly used spells. The ToDo Bosses are an awesome idea, as long as one can change them from time to time. There's no problem with the oldest and the reddest task, but many times I put away completing the most urgent task, because another one became more urgent with time. I once changed the most urgent task to a different one when I finished the most hated ToDo and was picking another one. Right now I have come to the point where all five tasks are big and require a lot of time and work, and as a result the whole list is totally overwhelming. I wish I could re-think the whole list, because I know with all everyday work I have no chance to complete any of these tasks within the next month. I have used the pink potion (regular one) once or twice, just because it is available, but decided it would make the game way too easy, and stopped doing that. Also, I usually forgot to check off the challenge ToDos (streaks on Dailies, etc.) and did that a couple of days later. The whole challenge is a lot of fun, but also consumed some of my energy as I had to remember lots of things when logging to Habitica, to figure out which Dailies can be checked off already, and which need to wait. And which activities I can count towards completing the ToDo Bosses. Certainly made me spend more time here! Sorry for this long post. I hope you find it valuable for the future You are Poisoned (and possibly other) challenges."

Thought so, it's an interesting challenge. In terms of winning am I right in thinking you can permanently heal one poison without affecting chances of winning? Yes you are right, but only one.

Thanks for that. Couple of points that I've run up against which you might want to consider for the next challenge: It seems a lot harder if you use checklists than if you break tasks down into separate tasks you get more chances to vanquish todos especially STDs (I'm assuming the naming is deliberate). Relatedly there are todos which cannot be completed right now e.g. todos/STDs which involve a meeting possibly prep for the meeting meaning once the prep is done and meeting scheduled you can't do anything about it until the day of the meeting. I have one STD which will be like this as soon as I've finished prep for it and then it'll just be sitting there for a week. Hope that feedback is okay/useful. I do have a question: at the beginning, I was just surviving and had to buy a lot of antidotes. Now, it's working better, and I'm taking some time to actually look at the todos. I don't quite understand what means: get one poison streak to 21.

Comments; Having that many Dailies will make it hard for those on quests to avoin damage. Some of your Dailies aren't done on a daily basis by everyone. There are ways around that, but I need to think it thru more to explain better. It's basically a hardcore challenge, so it is meaning to damage you if you aren't top notch all the time. But you aren't forced to participate and you can make a lighter version of the same challenge if you want, you are freeeeee.

Feed-back: I think I didn't finish all tasks. At the beginning of the challenge, I missed the fact that I should track the points to get those done. So I tracked them for a bit. But I went through a time when I didn't have much to play, and I just focused on the dailies. The challenge has also pushed me to change my dailies layout. The previous one had become too comfy.

"Hey LordVlad, I just had a question about the You Are Poisoned: Rewards challenge. I dont really understand what Im supposed to do for the Sooo good: dont even get one poison healed one day and Talented: dont even get one poison healed three days straight. Sorry to bother you >.<" These are sarcastic achievements about missing every daily. I actually hope you don't get them.

What does restricting ways to be healed mean and what is not healing posions Restricting ways To be healed just means replacing notes of treatments and antidotes, negative habits and custom rewards if you prefer, by the word restricted, making you unable to use them. Custom rewards are called antidotes, not healing potions. Antidotes are always usable, but you cannot use treatments and healing potions the same day, or with conditions.

Hi there, I'm in the Warrior Challenge, but I'm confused about what Buddhist Cure does. I pay 10 gold and am protected from all Blue and REd poisons that day? But then why is it less expensive than buying antidotes for Blue and Red? I must not be understanding something. Thanks!

"Yes,you are misunderstanding, you have to pay it as soon as you can for the whole day. Say you have 400 gold, you have to spend them all, on that reward, then check red and blue poisons, then if at any time of the day, you have ten gold, you HAVE TO spend it on that reward. Good if you are poor and plan to stay poor."

I'm a 97 Lvl warrior and was planning on doing rebirth and changing to Healer but to be eligible for the  prize I need to stay as the same Class, right? Does the current Challenge end in Dec? Thanks again for the great Challenge; I'm really enjoying it."

Hi, is there somewhere with more information/ support for your you are poisoned challenge (Mage)? Eg a guild or something? I have read the challenge and want to try it but I feel like I will have questions after I start. Thanks in advance.

There isn't a guild for the challenge in particular, but the Hard Mode guild is pretty active and I'm there responding as much as I can. The Bulletin Board can also be used for questions but by definition it's not made for it.

Bref je tenais à te remercier pour challenge prenant surtout pour moi qui adore quand les choses prennent une tournure assez RP, et motivant pour toutes ces choses que je devrais faire mais à la place de quoi je procrastine copieusement! Mais voila ma petite question: tes achievements n'ont pas été pensés pour être tous faisable en même temps si ? Puisqu'il y en a des contradictoires (Super hardcore mode et Don't get hurt by any poison par exemple). Et quand tu parles de moyen de heal, ce sont bien les reward qui permettent de soigner un poison ? Ca ne compte pas les heals du healer ? En effet les heals du healers soignent les pv rien de plus, ils soignent l'effet du poison pas sa dailie. Ce sont les récompenses et habitudes qui soignent  les poisons. Tous les achèvement ne sont pas obtensibles en même temps et certains sont même faits sarcastiquement avec l'espoir que les joueurs ne les aient jamais. Certains sont vraiment durs et je ne le ferais pas moi même. Mais globallement si tu t'en sors bien tu obtiens la majorité en jouant normalement.

If you change class, change challenge. You have always a chance of winning provided you played well enough for 10-15 days and the achievements are in an universal challenge. You can also take screenshots of your tasks and report the streaks. You will have a hard time starting immediately since you may have to cast a blessing to get a poison healed. But if you feel like you can do with it, switch immediately if you want. It is the reason why the warriors challenge is also thought for beginners. No skill asked, not much money needed, special rewards should save a low LV s life.

''If some of the remedies don't fit you, you can remove them by changing the description by RESTRICTED. There are achievements for doing so.'' What does this line mean?

The sentence you asked means that except the daily tasks, the description (or extra notes if you prefer) of any task in the challenge can be replaced with the word Restricted, meaning you won't use it afterwards.

"Hi! I'm part of the Poison Challenge. I was wondering, for Kleptomania am I allowed to substitute Pickpocket for Backstab? Ideally, no, you have to use Pickpocket to tick this one, it is actually forcing you to get 30 mana a day, in addition to anything you could want to cast... But if I remember well, backstab uses 15 MP ? The problem is I am trying to limit the exp gain from the challenge, 10 tasks can give considerable amounts already and backstab would give even more."

"If I end an STD, does that also count as completing a to-do? There's one daily that says the I have to get closer to an STD does it count if I just end one?

"Yes indeed, you can count completing an STD as completing a to-do and also as a step to an STD, or not, it's up to you, the more you dissociate them, the harder. This is one little moving part of the challenge that is good to adjust the difficulty a bit.

Is there any way to get extra credit or future credit if I end 2 STDs in a day? Sometimes I am less motivated after completing an STD to work on another because I want to 'save' it for the next day so I can check it off then to avoid being poisoned! Would be neat to get some kind of bonus or free potion if more than one STD is completed per day, perhaps.

Now it's up to you when you tick the task, actually, you may as well keep a done to-do unchecked for a few more hours if it frustrates you when you do more than one the same day. Though, I will not make a system for that in the challenge, I would frankly not see that as cheating, in that narrow case.

Hi! I was checking out your poison challenges, but I keep seeing something saying that healing potions have their own rules but no information about what those rules are. Also, is this in reference to just the normal in-game healing potions? Thanks for the help!

"If you are speaking about the custom reward potions, antidotes as I say, yes, you can check a poison of the corresponding colour after you buy one. If you are speaking of the basic health potions that heals 15 HP, no, those only heal HP."

Thank you! What about for Most Urgent STD. I find that this changes frequently (sometimes several times in a day) because emergencies come up but for the purposes of the Challenge I don't actually change the To-Do because it feels like it would be cheating, since then it would be easy to change and check off Most Urgent every day. So I make it a rule for myself to update that one only once a week. What is your system for Most Urgent STD? "You can indeed change it once a day, if you complete it once a day, no problem. The most urgent is meant to offer a good solution for the curse of to-do bosses everyday, while also requirering you to make the most urgent thing. My system is to change it only when I finish the task or I miss and it is overdue. If I really can't do it and something becomes more urgent I change it to it, but in my case, rarely happens."

Two questions: What are the rules on visiting the inn? I'm suffering from migraine attacks so I sometimes have to use it because I'm unable to go to work or get stuff done on these days There is no special rule for the inn, use it as you normally would. You are only cheating if you feel that you are. It's gonna end starting of the year and there will be more during at least the next year, 3 months at a time.

So...I feel a little bad for asking but...how do the bad habits work in the You Are Poisoned challenge? No worries. The thing is that you clic them, take damages, and then if some of the poison haven't been checked you check them according to how many the notes say you can. It's just taking damages from another source, but it is good for keeping streaks, which are important to the achievements.

@Lord Vlad I was wondering about the rewards challenge, the achievement where it says you go several days without using any potions or healing etc. Can you use the bad habits to check off the pure poison daily, or do you have to sacrifice having a perfect day? @seschnepper That particular achievement requires, yes, that you abandon perfect days for some time. It's up to you to go after it or not.

On you are poisoned rewards: when it says "restrict all ways to be healed" does that mean all treatments and antidotes or just all treatments? All treatments, all antidotes. It's just you and the poisons, you can only avoid damages by doing what they require. It's called hardcore for a reason, but you are free to go after this achievement or not. I think very few people would take their chance with that one.

If for the "Sin of Laziness" potion you have exactly five due to-dos, can you click it or not? In other words, does "less than five" include five or not? 1 = It doesn't include 5, it's strictly inferior to five, 4 max.

What does "Build a church" do exactly? Does it clear all your poisons for a week, or only one? The description is not clear enough for me to figure this out. 2 = It is just a fun replacement for the bundle of pink antidotes, so it's all the poisons during one week.

I think the idea of poisoning todos by making them into dailies is a good one. Losing health, boss damage in quests, losing the perfect day buffs, and charms from the charms and curses challenge is a more powerful motivator than, well, nothing happening. In fact, the game rewards leaving todos alone since they get more valuable over time. @Dee Cee & @blakejones99 that's the idea behind the Curse of the todo bosses and this whole Special ToDo system in general. Although of course, I can't be too specific since it will be the same for all players. You end up doing the most urgent thing every day, or try your best to end an old one if you can't do the most urgent. However, I feel like having the opportunity to pay gold to escape it defeats the point a bit, even a lot of gold, you'll earn it anyway if you are really active, and you won't spend it much on the other tasks of the challenge.. @Lord Vlad I've managed to pay my way out of doing to-dos for months at a time! @Dee Cee Yeah definitely, I think that's why sometimes I find it "okay" not to do a to-do and put it off because I know then it'll be worth more

Another you are poisoned rewards question. On the "survive n days without any treatments potions or spells": Why would you need to "fix" character values from leveling up (as it says in the explanation). Also, do any spells count, even if they are attacking spells? @Dee Cee is correct, it's for the level up regen @Mikenmarie. Also not any spell, only those that heal you, or make you avoid damages, that's all healer's spells and some others. Getting your CON raised is acceptable, though, since you have no way of calculating damages that should be if it was not for that. But you should not cast it yourself nor ask somebody.

I have one clarifying question so far. For the "deal x damage to a boss" poison--do I count that as I deal it, or on the day cron actually hits the boss? (For instance, if I have 75 damage pending right now; do I check off the daily? Or do I check it off tomorrow once the damage has actually been applied to the boss?) @sanserifs good question : It was done at a time where looking up damages wasn't so simple, you had to use the data display tool, so it's meant to be damage already inflicted, but I'd say both are fine, as long as you are consistent, using always the same measurement.

'Healing potions have rules of their own and they only apply to them.' - here healing potions means Health Potion which cost 25 Gold right ? There are treatments (habits) that say 'Cant drink more healing potions' - here healing potions are antidotes(rewards) or health potion(25GP) ? 1 : yes, the other bottles are consistently called antidote.

In habits description, I the following were mentioned. I guess for: Due date scratches I have to check Patience deficiency Questing ghost haunt I have to check Infiltrating adventure

Instead of managing ToDos in Habitica, I have made dailies that say Read Topic 1 for 2hrs, Read Topic 2 for 1hr and so on (to focus on studying x hours per day). I will be using these instead of STD ToDos. Any issues with that ? 5 : Yes, there is an issue about that. It counts as getting closer to a STD, but not as ending a STD, it's supposed to be either some kind of milestone, or something very urgent and that has to be completed. Furthermore there is already a poison for making all non-poison dailies. If you really don't want to use to-d tasks for that, I have no other solution for you than enter-leave-keeptasks the challenge and customise it as you prefer.